In a candid conversation on the Ayahuasca Podcast, facilitator Oliver Glozik opens up to Sam Believ about the realities of running an ayahuasca retreat. Far from being a constant stream of jungle bliss and spiritual serenity, his account reveals a path filled with emotional weight, logistical challenges, and moments of profound purpose.
A Life Transformed
Before stepping into the world of plant medicine, Oliver lived a very different life. Raised in Germany with Hungarian roots, he ran a successful video-marketing agency, building campaigns for tech companies. āIt was all about money,ā he admits. āIt wasnāt bad, but it wasnāt fulfilling.ā His encounter with ayahuasca changed everything. After several ceremonies that completely shifted his outlook on life, he sold his company and followed a deeper callingāeventually co-founding a retreat center in Colombia dedicated to authentic plant-medicine work.
āI didnāt plan this,ā he says. āAyahuasca found me.ā
The Weight of Responsibility
Many people imagine retreat work as a peaceful, almost vacation-like lifestyle. Oliver is quick to dismantle that myth. Running an ayahuasca retreat, he explains, is like running a hotel, a restaurant, a therapy center, and a spiritual sanctuaryāall at once. āYouāre responsible for peopleās safety, their emotional states, their healing, and their overall wellbeing. Itās a lot.ā
Unlike typical hospitality work, the guests arenāt simply travelersātheyāre participants undergoing deep psychological and spiritual transformation. Many arrive with trauma, depression, or a sense of despair. Some even arrive as a last resort. āWeāve had people come with one-way tickets,ā Oliver recalls, āsaying, āIf this doesnāt help me, I donāt know what else will.ā Thatās an enormous weight to carry as a facilitator.ā
Money vs. Mission
Although a retreat must operate as a business to survive, Oliver insists that profit can never be the primary motive. āIf you do it for money, youāll burn out or fail,ā he says. āThis work has to come from the heart.ā
Every retreat demands careful logistics: sourcing clean water, maintaining the property, organizing transportation, and ensuring that the medicine itself is prepared safely and respectfully. Yet what keeps him going isnāt the operationsāitās the moments of transformation he witnesses. āWhen someone comes broken and leaves with light in their eyes againāthatās what makes it worth it.ā
The Emotional and Energetic Toll
Being surrounded by intense human emotion day after day is no small challenge. Facilitators often hold space for crying, shaking, purging, fear, and catharsisāall happening simultaneously among multiple participants. āYou absorb a lot,ā Oliver admits. āIf youāre not grounded, it can take you down.ā
Thatās why he emphasizes self-care and boundaries. Regular meditation, clean diet, rest, and personal ceremonies are essential to staying balanced. āYou canāt pour from an empty cup,ā he says. āThe facilitator must stay in integrityāspiritually, mentally, and emotionally.ā
Integrity and Authenticity
Throughout the conversation, both Sam and Oliver highlight integrity as the foundation of all true healing work. Oliver recalls a mentor shaman whose strength came not from charisma or showmanship but from quiet authenticity. āHe lived what he preached. Thatās why his words had power.ā
Similarly, facilitators must embody the principles they encourage in others: humility, discipline, and continuous self-work. āYou canāt help people face their shadows if you refuse to face your own,ā Oliver says. In his view, every ceremony reflects back parts of the facilitatorās inner world. The work never stopsāit deepens.
The Constant Test
No matter how well a retreat is planned, Oliver explains, there will always be unpredictability. āYou can have the right team, the right space, and still have a ceremony that tests everyone.ā The lesson is to trust the process and remember that ayahuasca gives participants what they need, not what they want. Sometimes that means confronting fear, grief, or uncomfortable truth.
He and Sam agree that a retreatās success canāt be measured only by how pleasant an experience feels. āHealing isnāt always pretty,ā Sam adds. āBut the real transformation often happens after the hardest nights.ā
Fulfillment Amid the Difficulty
Despite the challengesāthe sleepless nights, the crises, the emotional stormsāOliver says he wouldnāt trade this life for anything. āItās the hardest work Iāve ever done, but also the most rewarding.ā
Seeing people reclaim their lives, repair relationships, or rediscover self-love fills him with gratitude. āYou canāt put a price on that,ā he says. āWhen someone hugs you and says, āYou changed my life,ā you realize why youāre doing it.ā
A Realistic View of the Path
Oliverās reflections pull back the curtain on a world often romanticized in spiritual circles. The ayahuasca retreat is not a paradise where everything flows easilyāitās a living, breathing ecosystem of human emotions, logistical challenges, and sacred responsibility.
His message to anyone drawn to this pathāwhether as participant or facilitatorāis clear: donāt idealize it. Come prepared to work, to face yourself, and to hold others with compassion. āThis path will humble you,ā Oliver concludes. āBut if you stay aligned, it will also make you more human.ā
Based on the Ayahuasca Podcast episode āDifficult Life of an Ayahuasca Retreat Facilitatorā with Sam Believ and Oliver Glozik.

Sam Believ is the founder and CEO of LaWayra Ayahuasca Retreat, the best-rated Ayahuasca retreat in South America, with over 520 five-star Google reviews and an overall rating of 5 stars. After his life was transformed by Ayahuasca, he dedicated himself to spreading awareness about this ancestral medicine to help address the mental health crisis. Sam is committed to making Ayahuasca retreats affordable, accessible, and authentic, with a focus on care, integration, and the involvement of indigenous shamans. He is also the host of the Ayahuasca Podcast.